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Aneurin
Question: examine the extent to which aneurin bevan succeeded in overcoming the obstacles which he encountered? the full question---examine the extent to which aneurin bevan succeeded in overcoming the obstacles which he encountered in achieving his vision for a NHS in the years 1945-1951?
Answer: Bevan had a dramatic show down with the British Medical Association, which had threatened to derail the National Health Service scheme as medical practitioners continued to withhold their support just months before the launch of the service. He managed to obtain their support by offering increased fees. He later stated that he had to "stuff their mouths with gold". He also felt widespread public condemnation as people thought he was bringing in a communist state. He recalled that occasionally people would spit at him in the street.
Question: Why is Aneurin Bevan nicknamed "Nye"?
Thanks rdenig. I never knew that Aneurin shortened to "Nye". Is it one of those irregular ones then like Margaret to "Peggy", or Robert to "Bob"?
Answer: Merely a shortened form of his first name, Aneurin.
Question: what does the welsh name aneurin mean? my names aneurin and was just wondering what it ment
Answer: it means honourable
Question: Opinions on the name Aneurin? Aneurin [an-EYE-rin]
I've just seen this name mentioned in LadyMoon's question, and I absolutely love it. So, I'm just curious. Feel free to be honest, but don't be rude, please.
What do you think of the name Aneurin? Ratings? Comments?
BQ: Can you pair a middle name with Aneurin? No more than five please :)
Answer: LOL well of course I love it!!
The main problem seems to be that outside Wales there is a pronouciation problem. My hubby's family are English (Kent-London area) and they seem to have major problems with it - they all picked up on the "urine" spelling and seem to tie themselves in knots trying to get their head around the fact that in Welsh "eu" is pronouced "eye" and that he won't get teased about the "urine" thing at school (at least not in Wales where we live) because its just not pronounced that way! My son and this baby will most likely be going to a Welsh language school anyway . . .
(Incidentally, if pronounciation is a problem it can also be spelled "Aneirin" which might make it more pronounceable outside of Wales!)
I'm considering it as a first name too although I do kind of prefer Edward at the moment. Not sure yet though as I'm only 17 weeks and besides we don't even know we're having a boy yet!! (plus hubby doesn't really like Edward . . .)
The main association for me is Aneurin Bevan, a truly great Welshman who gave the UK our National Health Service and Welfare state. He was a real visionary and man of the people who has been voted the greatest ever Welsh hero, and I feel very proud of him. He has a statue in Cardiff town centre. He was much loved, not just in Wales but all over the UK, and still is . . .
A great quote:
"The collective principle asserts that... no society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of lack of means."
—Aneurin Bevan, In Place of Fear, p100
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aneurin_Bevan
Aneurin Bevan was usually known as "Nye" for short, which is a nice nickname for a name which is kind of long.
Although I'm Welsh myself there aren't that many Welsh names I really like - mainly because a lot of the more common ones (Rhys, Owen, Gareth etc) have been done to death and back in Wales and are so commonplace. I like a name thats a little more unusual.
Also I think that Aneurin would go well with my 3 year old son's name - Arthur. Would make a nice sibling set.
But we'll see. As I said, baby might turn out to be a girl!!! :P
Middle names:
Aneurin Geraint
Aneurin John
Aneurin Edward
Question: Your views on the (Welsh) Boy's name Aneirin/Aneurin)? Its pronounced An-EYE-rin. It can be spelt either "Aneirin" or "Aneurin" (in Welsh, both "ei" and "eu" make an "eye" sound)
I'm Welsh and we live in Wales so pronounciation won't be a problem (only possibly with hubby's family who are English lol)
It means "Noble" or "Precious" and was the name of a 6th century Welsh bard.
Its most commonly known today from the 20th century Welsh politician Aneurin Bevan, who set up the welfare state and NHS in the UK.
Do you like it? And which spelling do you prefer? (Bearing in mind that living in Wales there will NOT be a problem with pronouciation and noone would connect Aneurin with "urine" because its not pronounced that way!)
I like it as is an *uncommon* Welsh boy's name, (unlike many of the others such as Rhys, Gareth, Owen, Dylan etc which are just very overused these days in Wales).
Thanks!
TellmeWhy - well you wouldn't meet anyone of that name outside of Wales. And the reason I like it is because its unusual.
Answer: It's NOT pronounced An-EYE-rin (except by the English)... 'U' is pronounced like an 'i' in South Wales, hence the alternative spelling 'Aneirin'.
Aneurin is pronounced more like..An-A-rin (A as the letter 'a').... ( similar to 'an airing')
English people tend to mispronounce Welsh names...they pronounce 'Rhys' as 'Reece' and 'Dewi' as 'Dowie'. So, if you don't want to sound English, don't pronounce it as An-EYE-rin. What's the point of having a Welsh name if you're not going to pronounce it properly?
I like the name, but I prefer the spelling 'Aneurin'.
Question: When Bevan wanted the "commanding heights of the economy" in public ownership, what would this include? Which areas of production did he have in mind?
This question refers to the UK Labour minister Aneurin Bevan.
Answer: He meant utilities, the steel and coal industries the railways, the entire infrastructure etc. He recognised then! the potential of all the industries to put lead in the pencil of our over all economic structure. It would still hold today if Thatcher...(the tories) hadn't destroyed Britain's industries. the rule of thumb must always be, if the greedy private sector are falling over themselves Bribing our Foul thieving parasite MPs to privatise, then it is worth keeping and will put profit into the economy. Privatisation is legalised extortion. nothing more, because the public are still forced to put billions of taxpayers money into it, the difference is that all the massive profits go to private fat bloated share holders, and not back into the coffers. For all of hes faults,Bevan was a good man. A, no bullshit, true working mans MP. Its a pity we cant find the like of him now.
Question: Who do you think is the best politician of all time? Can be any politician, any party, any country. I'd probably go with Aneurin Bevan but im not too sure.
Answer: Politician: a seeker or holder of public office, who is more concerned about winning favor or retaining power than about maintaining principles.
By this definition, I would say Hitler.
Question: Aneurin Bevan. Great Man? The architect of the NHS. A poor Welsh miner's son who had worked himself up to a position where he was able to implement change to help the less fortunate in Britain.
His achievements make me proud to be Welsh. Oh for politicians of his ilk today instead of the useless bunch of self serving greedy middle class glory hunters currently wasting our time and money in Westminster.
Your views on Bevan?
Answer: Sure was...but could it not be said now that his ideas would be pooh-pooh'd by ALL politicians today. Things indeed were different when Labour won it's landslide victory in 1945, and when he resigned from the government after the introduction of prescription charges for teeth & specs in the early fifties, that was the action of a great man. He knew the advantages of socialism, and realised what damage could be done if politicians attempted to halt the progress.
Would you feel the same pride if he came from, say, Carlisle (or, ahem...SW3)? And what about Neil Kinnock - okay, he was no Aneurin Bevan...but did the press at the time (circa 1980-85) attempt to have even your people - Welsh - sneer and snarl?
Question: Your views on Aneurin Bevan? A true man of the people! He gave us the NHS.
He cared for the people of this country, unlike the awful excuses for "politicians" who are currently riding roughshod over the British working class.
He makes me proud to be Welsh!
Arthur Scargill did a lot of harm I agree. He went way OTT. But Thatcher did even more. Nothing can change the fact that her actions were motivated by unmitigated, American-style Capitalist greed.
Answer: Agreed. The one good thing that ever came out of the Labour party, and possibly their greatest achievement. Shame the current incumbents are doing all they can to destroy his one and only legacy. He's probably turning in his grave.
Question: Which famous person from your country are you most proud of? And which one makes you feel the most embarassed?
As a Welsh girl I'd have to say I'm most proud of the great Aneurin Bevan, the politician and architect of the NHS. He was a true man of the people, principled and dedicated. Through his vision, millions of lives have been saved and improved.
Most embarassing Welsh person for me would have to be Charlotte Church. For obvious reasons. (Publicity hungry Z-listers are not my thing.)
Answer: My national identity (not ethnic) is Indian and I feel proud of the national leader, Dr B R Ambedkar who fought against the typical Indian Hindu racism (the varna/color or caste system, as laid down by a sacred Brahmin Manu in his Manusmriti) till his death. None of his contemporaries was as highly educated as he was, but he could not got respect from them who were even reluctant to touch him as Amvedkar himself belonged to the Mahar community (ethnically Dravidian/Indian black) which was regarded as unholy and untouchable Hindu community. In his childhood schooling days Amvedkar was not allowed to sit with other boys and was forbidden to enter village temple grounds and other Caste Hindu areas. However, Amvedkar studied well and to pursue higher studies went to America and London. Amvedkar after India's independence wrote Indian Constitution as a constitution of the world's largest democracy. Unfortunately, some Caste Hindus still hate him and sometimes even break his statues.
I feel most embarrased by Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi, a controversial political leader who always quarreled with Amvedkar to sustain the caste system. Gandhi, a Gujarati sacred Brahmin, though fought against British rule with his Ahimsa (non-violence) theory strongly supported the racist caste system in the name of social division of labor as did the opponents of Abraham Lincoln to retain slavery.
Thus, I find resemblance between India and her Amvedkar on the one hand and America and her Martin Luther Jr on the other.
Question: Who said "The religion of Socialism is the language of priorities"? I think it may have been Aneurin Bevan, at least someone in the Attlee government.
Whoever it was, when and where please
Answer: Nye Bevan
Question: Why is it that the Welsh speak english more beautifully than the English? Think Richard Burton, Anthony Hopkins, Aneurin Bevan.
Answer: I think it is because they pronounce all the vowels and consonants in a word, unlike most English people who miss quite a few sounds from their words, and add "r" in words like "aw(r)ful", "India(r)".
I am comparing Educated Welsh accents with similarly Educated English ones.
The regional accents are quite another thing.
However, I must say that there are some astoundingly good English speakers who cannot be matched by anyone. Joanna Lumnley and Jill Dando RIP come to mind. I can't think of any male names at the moment although I know they exist, perhaps because I only notice the females whose voices I find very sexy
Question: Do you agree with this quote from a great Welsh hero? "The collective principle asserts that... no society can legitimately call itself civilised if a sick person is denied medical aid because of lack of means."
—Aneurin Bevan, In Place of Fear, p100
Paul M - Actually I live in the UK and thanks to Aneurin Bevan I don't need to worry about any "bill" when I go to hospital, thanks.
Answer: Yes, one of the greatest politicians ever to grace this country, how I wish politicians nowadays had the same convictions.
Question: Does anyone know any other songs similar to these? Happy f***ing birthday by combichrist
The Matrix by aneurin
Acid Test by Subfocus
Thanks in advance
Answer: pandora.com
Question: Who do you think is the greatest ever welshman (living or dead)? Mine is Aneurin Bevan (founder of the nhs) - whats yours (if you have one)?
Answer: Llewelyn the Great. Stood up to the Normans like we couldn't/wouldn't.(Hope I spelt his name right)
Question: Middle names combination for Edward - out of these suggested names? Can you make two middle names for a little boy named Edward out of the following suggestions:
Welsh names:
Geraint (G is a hard G as in goat and "aint" rhymes with "pint)
Aneurin (another Welsh name - pronounced an-EYE-rin - in honour of the Welsh politican Aneurin Bevan)
Ioan (Welsh for John - pronounced Yo-an)
English names:
Damon
Alastair
Robert
John
I'm Welsh and my hubby is English, and I would quite like to use at least one Welsh middle name but those three are the only ones I like. We live in Wales so pronounciation is NOT a problem.
Hubby likes some of the English names listed above.
We have a tradition in our family of having *two* middle names so I'm looking for something along the lines of: Edward Geraint John etc
Edward is definitely to be the first name. I just want middle name suggestions! As many as you can think of!
Thanks.
Shamilah - I got Edward from Jane Eyre (Edward Rochester), its always been a favourite of mine, and Alastair is the name of an England Cricket player (Alastair Cook - husband loves cricket.)
I am NOT a Twilight fan!!!! Plus at 38 I'm a bit too old to be . . . .
Answer: Edward Alastair loan sounds awesome
btw - did u get that out of twilight? cuz i swear, both edward n alastair r names from there
jus wonderin if Welsh mothers read it...
best wishes for your babe!
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